Hello everyone,
I think here came a perfect chance for me to make new friends here.
I am Rebel Zhang (formerly known as Carter Zhang), a free software advocate from China. I love libre software, GNU/Linux, LineageOS, Tor, I2P, and many more.
If you want to make friends with me, feel free to visit my homepage on tilde.club: https://tilde.club/~rebel1725/ https://tilde.club/~czl92783719/. You can contact me using XMPP, Tox, etc. By the way, I speak English and Chinese.
Best,
Rebel
On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 08:11:53AM +0000, Rebel Zhang wrote:
Hello everyone,
I think here came a perfect chance for me to make new friends here.
I am Rebel Zhang (formerly known as Carter Zhang), a free software advocate from China. I love libre software, GNU/Linux, LineageOS, Tor, I2P, and many more.
If you want to make friends with me, feel free to visit my homepage on tilde.club: https://tilde.club/~rebel1725/ https://tilde.club/~czl92783719/. You can contact me using XMPP, Tox, etc. By the way, I speak English and Chinese.
Best,
Rebel
Hi envs.net! tilde.club had a spam problem recently because that same person posted on their mailing list. Many tilde.club members forward email coming to their tilde inbox to inboxes their have at their provider of choice. The discussion following that email on tilde.club's mailing list led to many emails with a sender address ending in tilde.club being flagged as spam at those external email providers. This led to tilde.club's reputation of being an origin not sending spam sinking. Many external providers blocked email originating from tilde.club as a result. See the relevant thread on tilde.club's mailing list:
https://lists.tildeverse.org/hyperkitty/list/tildeclub@lists.tildeverse.org/...
I'm afraid your assumption why tilde.club is on blacklists is not conclusive, since this would require all users who forward their mail to another mail to mark the mails as spam manually.
tilde.club is on the outlook blacklist because a malicious or hacked user was active for a while to spam as far as I know.
On 16/07/2025 08:16, Julius Bernotas wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 08:11:53AM +0000, Rebel Zhang wrote:
Hello everyone,
I think here came a perfect chance for me to make new friends here.
I am Rebel Zhang (formerly known as Carter Zhang), a free software advocate from China. I love libre software, GNU/Linux, LineageOS, Tor, I2P, and many more.
If you want to make friends with me, feel free to visit my homepage on tilde.club: https://tilde.club/~rebel1725/ https://tilde.club/~czl92783719/. You can contact me using XMPP, Tox, etc. By the way, I speak English and Chinese.
Best,
Rebel
Hi envs.net! tilde.club had a spam problem recently because that same person posted on their mailing list. Many tilde.club members forward email coming to their tilde inbox to inboxes their have at their provider of choice. The discussion following that email on tilde.club's mailing list led to many emails with a sender address ending in tilde.club being flagged as spam at those external email providers. This led to tilde.club's reputation of being an origin not sending spam sinking. Many external providers blocked email originating from tilde.club as a result. See the relevant thread on tilde.club's mailing list:
https://lists.tildeverse.org/hyperkitty/list/tildeclub@lists.tildeverse.org/... _______________________________________________ team mailing list -- team@envs.net https://lists.envs.net/hyperkitty/list/team@envs.net/message/S22267STD3CICW6... to unsubscribe send an email to team-leave@envs.net
On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 07:49:29PM +0000, Alexander wrote:
I'm afraid your assumption why tilde.club is on blacklists is not conclusive, since this would require all users who forward their mail to another mail to mark the mails as spam manually.
tilde.club is on the outlook blacklist because a malicious or hacked user was active for a while to spam as far as I know.
On 16/07/2025 08:16, Julius Bernotas wrote:
On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 08:11:53AM +0000, Rebel Zhang wrote:
Hello everyone,
I think here came a perfect chance for me to make new friends here.
I am Rebel Zhang (formerly known as Carter Zhang), a free software advocate from China. I love libre software, GNU/Linux, LineageOS, Tor, I2P, and many more.
If you want to make friends with me, feel free to visit my homepage on tilde.club: https://tilde.club/~rebel1725/ https://tilde.club/~czl92783719/. You can contact me using XMPP, Tox, etc. By the way, I speak English and Chinese.
Best,
Rebel
Hi envs.net! tilde.club had a spam problem recently because that same person posted on their mailing list. Many tilde.club members forward email coming to their tilde inbox to inboxes their have at their provider of choice. The discussion following that email on tilde.club's mailing list led to many emails with a sender address ending in tilde.club being flagged as spam at those external email providers. This led to tilde.club's reputation of being an origin not sending spam sinking. Many external providers blocked email originating from tilde.club as a result. See the relevant thread on tilde.club's mailing list:
https://lists.tildeverse.org/hyperkitty/list/tildeclub@lists.tildeverse.org/...
I was considering the case where email is flagged as spam by automatic filters upon arrival at an email provider that is different from tilde.club. An external provider so to speak. When a few days ago I had a first look at the mails of the thread on the mailing list I linked to, I intuitively thought of it as spam. Your reply prompted me to look at this thread again and I don't see anything offensive in it.
By the way I share the view that whether a reader considers an arriving email as spam or not is highly subjective and varies from one reader to another.
Regarding the recent issue of tilde.club's rating as a source seding good email or sending spam dropping at external providers, I left with the impression that in the end we didn't know what happened that could have caused it. Or are there elements to the story I'm unaware of?
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