20 Mar
2022
20 Mar
'22
8:37 p.m.
Right now I have version 1.28.3
(https://download.delta.chat/android/deltachat-gplay-release-1.28.3.apk)
and tonight's nightly to test
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20 Mar
20 Mar
8:40 p.m.
New subject: ML
Now I see your answer in the right thread 🤨 It's a bug they have already
fixed, but towards the end of March beginning of April 1.30.x should come
out with the bugs fixed, it will take a week or two of further testing and
then it will be published on the stores
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9:11 p.m.
New subject: ML
And yes
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9:32 p.m.
New subject: ML
Not sure if this is just an issue on my end but is Gh0stz0x just talking
to himself for anyone else?
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9:42 p.m.
New subject: ML
[envs-team]Re: ML – Not sure if this is just an issue
on my end but
is Gh0stz0x just talking to himself for anyone else?
I am replying to two users, but using Delta Chat, I have yet to figure out
where the messages are going. Now I see your message within the "group"
with subject ML. Not knowing if the two users who wrote to me wrote to me
"privately", I preferred to write in the ML thread. Sorry for the confusion,
I also need to understand how mls work in DC 😅
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9:44 p.m.
New subject: ML
Now I see your message within the "group"
with subject ML. Not
knowing if the two users who wrote to me wrote to me
"privately",
Yeah, that's possible. especially since it seems that mailing list
replies go straight to the poster instead of to the mailing list.
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9:47 p.m.
New subject: ML
[envs-team]Re: ML – > Now I see your message within
the "group" with
subject ML. Not knowing if the two users who wrote to me wrote to me
"privately",
Yeah, that's possible. especially since it seems that mailing list replies
go straight to the poster instead of to the mailing list.
That was the doubt I had.
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9:51 p.m.
New subject: ML
Using ML with DC (Delta Chat) is very convenient and fast. And I think that
using DC bots can enhance ML. For example, if one is talking about weather
conditions in a thread, one can use the bot by sending the command to know
the situation at a certain place in the world. The only disadvantage for
now is that you can't use e2e encryption in ml, or at least force it. 🤔
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21 Mar
21 Mar
1:36 a.m.
New subject: ML
Using ML with DC (Delta Chat) is very convenient and
fast.
Lol I'm sorry but "fast" doesn't seem very reasonable for
any IM based
on email. Also seems to me like it's not very secure or private to do IM
over email, considering that email is probably one of the most
surveilled communications systems on the planet beyond maybe SMS.
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6 a.m.
New subject: ML
[envs-team]Re: ML – > Using ML with DC (Delta Chat)
is very convenient
and fast.
Lol I'm sorry but "fast" doesn't seem very reasonable for any IM based
on email. Also seems to me like it's not very secure or private to do
IM over email, considering that email is probably one of the most surveilled
communications systems on the planet beyond maybe SMS.
It depends on the providers. Honestly with the providers I use, it's as
fast as whatsapp or signal
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6:09 a.m.
New subject: ML
[envs-team]Re: ML – > Using ML with DC (Delta Chat)
is very convenient
and fast.
Lol I'm sorry but "fast" doesn't seem very reasonable for any IM based
on email. Also seems to me like it's not very secure or private to do
IM over email, considering that email is probably one of the most surveilled
communications systems on the planet beyond maybe SMS.
Then as I said, it is encrypted e2e so they can check what they want, they
can't read anything!
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7:49 p.m.
New subject: ML
On Mon Mar 21, 2022 at 5:09 AM UTC, Gh0stz0x wrote:
ah yes, the dilemma with a trusted or semi-trusted system. what happens
when that trust is lost? this is why trustless systems should be
preferred. you'll notice while the benevolence of your trusted provider
pleases you now, this may or may not remain to be true in the future!
also, remeber that while one (mail) provider may respect your privacy,
another may not. so any emails you send to not-so-much privacy
respecting providers are compromised.
they say: "if you have nothing to hide, then what's the problem?!"
which to that note, someone clever responds: "that's like saying who
cares about the right to freedom of speech if you've got nothing to
say!?"
\end incoherent ramble
[envs-team]Re:
ML – > Using ML with DC (Delta Chat) is very convenient
and fast.
Lol I'm sorry but "fast" doesn't seem very reasonable for any IM based
on email. Also seems to me like it's not very secure or private to do
IM over email, considering that email is probably one of the most surveilled
communications systems on the planet beyond maybe SMS.
Then as I said, it is encrypted e2e so they can check what they want,
they
can't read anything!
9:19 p.m.
New subject: ML
ah yes, the dilemma with a trusted or semi-trusted
system. what happens
when that trust is lost? this is why trustless systems should be
preferred. you'll notice while the benevolence of your trusted provider
pleases you now, this may or may not remain to be true in the future!
also, remeber that while one (mail) provider may respect your privacy,
another may not. so any emails you send to not-so-much privacy
respecting providers are compromised.
they say: "if you have nothing to hide, then what's the problem?!"
which to that note, someone clever responds: "that's like saying who
cares about the right to freedom of speech if you've got nothing to
say!?"
\end incoherent ramble
Indeed! this is why I prefer to use e2e encryption and possibly prefer to
meet the person and scan their QRCode for verification of their address
(and key exchange)
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9:16 p.m.
New subject: ML
On Mon Mar 21, 2022 at 1:02 PM PDT, Sebastian Korotkiewicz wrote:
I don't know if this isn't spam advertising
delta.chat...
admittedly, i was also quite confused by the one-sided conversation as
was another user, slips. my first impression was that this was spam as
well. though, i will give the useer the benefit of the doubt, as there
isn't usually too much traffic on this mailing list.
9:24 p.m.
New subject: ML
[envs-team]Re: ML – admittedly, i was also quite
confused by the one-sided
conversation as
was another user, slips. my first impression was that this was spam as
well. though, i will give the useer the benefit of the doubt, as there
isn't usually too much traffic on this mailing list. [...]
Sorry.
So can you explain to me what can be talked about in this ML?
Delta Chat is a Free Software project.
Don't you like it?
Let's talk about something else! 🤷♂️
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9:16 p.m.
New subject: ML
[envs-team]Re: ML – I don't know if this isn't
spam advertising delta.chat...
[...]
In what way? I did not understand 🤔
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